This car's clutch definitely takes some time getting used to! I granny shifted until I got the hang of it. I've gone from a 2002 Mustang GT, a 2010 Roush 427R, and let me tell you, I can't go back! I have issues going back to my other cars.
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Just purchased a CPO Avalanche Grey last night...it's nice above 4k. Anyway, the first thing I noticed is that the clutch feels like crap and I hate it. It springs up too quickly and there's no smoothness to it...feels like there is way too much travel with a tiny window before it engages...are all of the OEM springs like this? Anyone remove the spring with a stiffer smoother feeling?
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Maybe it's just me, but I love this clutch feel... Had an 03, 13, and 17 GT, with the GT felt similar in pressure wise.
Gotten used to it. Aftermarket can get you a stiffer pedal spring, but won’t change the clutches engagement point. The Duel Disc hooks up though!
I suggest you try it with the assist spring out, just pull it. Pulled mine 2 years ago and the feel could not be better, that was the first mod I had to do to the car. The clutch action drove me crazy, and I have been driving a clutch for 45 years. The clutch engagement is very predictable and linear with the spring gone.
You will hear some crap on the internet about problems pulling and running without the spring may cause, that is only scare tactics to get you to buy an aftermarket spring. I have 19,000 miles with the clutch spring out and the car drives drives like new.
You will hear some crap on the internet about problems pulling and running without the spring may cause, that is only scare tactics to get you to buy an aftermarket spring. I have 19,000 miles with the clutch spring out and the car drives drives like new.
r1, welcome to the forum, good folks here. Curious, is it just getting used to a new clutch "feel" or could there be an issue with your clutch (likely not I hope). You might want to check and see if an aftermarket spring has been added or if (as Dave noted above) the assist spring has been removed. I too have been driving manuals for many years and while there generally is an adjustment period to get used to a new car's clutch feel, I have no issues with my stock clutch whatsoever and it feels fine...Just purchased a CPO Avalanche Grey last night...it's nice above 4k. Anyway, the first thing I noticed is that the clutch feels like crap and I hate it. It springs up too quickly and there's no smoothness to it...feels like there is way too much travel with a tiny window before it engages...are all of the OEM springs like this? Anyone remove the spring with a stiffer smoother feeling?
By the way what year is your Avalanche Gray GT350 and post pics, thx!!
Switched mine out with the $15 Steeda and works great much more like you would expect.
It's not scare tactics. The aftermarket spring is simply a placeholder to keep the weight of the clutch pedal from sagging and constantly activating the cylinder.I suggest you try it with the assist spring out, just pull it. Pulled mine 2 years ago and the feel could not be better, that was the first mod I had to do to the car. The clutch action drove me crazy, and I have been driving a clutch for 45 years. The clutch engagement is very predictable and linear with the spring gone.
You will hear some crap on the internet about problems pulling and running without the spring may cause, that is only scare tactics to get you to buy an aftermarket spring. I have 19,000 miles with the clutch spring out and the car drives drives like new.
It's not unlike people who constantly drive with their left foot on the clutch pedal and have it slightly engaged. Over time, it just wears out the master cylinder which is therefore constantly working.
Can you yank the spring and not have issues? Sure. But for $12 is it really worth risking? The aftermarket spring doesn't have enough K value to change the feel from no spring at all. I'm no stranger to saving money, but to buy a $60k+ car and then worry about $12 seems a bit off balance to me.
We can all agree that the factory "assist" spring for the clutch is horrible and one of the first things you should replace.
I did NOT go for purchasing the new clutch perches as I would agree, THAT is a bit of scare tactics, if the factory perches fail, I'll spend the money on a better mousetrap. But a failed spring perch and a failed master cylinder are oceans apart in terms of potential cost/impact.
Yep...that's exactly what I did while I wait on the steeda spring. It now feels the way it should. I am going to leave it off permanently if the steeda changes the feel. Here she is btw. 16 with 10k miles in avalanche grey, tech pack, CPO with an 8 year 75k warranty, clear bra on fenders and hood and paint is near flawless. Just curious, how much would you guys have paid?I suggest you try it with the assist spring out, just pull it. Pulled mine 2 years ago and the feel could not be better, that was the first mod I had to do to the car. The clutch action drove me crazy, and I have been driving a clutch for 45 years. The clutch engagement is very predictable and linear with the spring gone.
You will hear some crap on the internet about problems pulling and running without the spring may cause, that is only scare tactics to get you to buy an aftermarket spring. I have 19,000 miles with the clutch spring out and the car drives drives like new.
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To much, looks great! Now your fun begins.
r1, sweet, looks great and have fun!! I just saw my 1st Avalanche Gray in person when some of us met up for a car meet here in SoCal. Great looking color combo for sure!!
I just wish someone out there can please tell me without a doubt that running no clutch assist spring is not going to harm anything. There has to be someone who knows based off of actual fact on this dam internet.... Lol.
I like the steeda but love the no spring feel. Only problem is when I have no clutch assist spring in I have about a half inch to an inch in the pedal (otherwise know as slop, play ,or sag)that I can pull up when it's fully retracted.
I've must of changed back and fourth about twenty times now, 😂....
For the love of God please someone tell me and actually know. Is no spring asking for trouble.???
And you guys that like the stocker, God bless. That thing is complete shit on release.
I like the steeda but love the no spring feel. Only problem is when I have no clutch assist spring in I have about a half inch to an inch in the pedal (otherwise know as slop, play ,or sag)that I can pull up when it's fully retracted.
I've must of changed back and fourth about twenty times now, 😂....
For the love of God please someone tell me and actually know. Is no spring asking for trouble.???
And you guys that like the stocker, God bless. That thing is complete shit on release.
Sounds to me like you answered your own question. Your comment reads like you have been going back and fourth between the steeda spring and no spring, but something about no spring troubles you. It’s already been stated what the spring is there for and what it prevents.I just wish someone out there can please tell me without a doubt that running no clutch assist spring is not going to harm anything. There has to be someone who knows based off of actual fact on this dam internet.... Lol.
I like the steeda but love the no spring feel. Only problem is when I have no clutch assist spring in I have about a half inch to an inch in the pedal (otherwise know as slop, play ,or sag)that I can pull up when it's fully retracted.
I've must of changed back and fourth about twenty times now, ��....
For the love of God please someone tell me and actually know. Is no spring asking for trouble.???
And you guys that like the stocker, God bless. That thing is complete shit on release.
It has? It's been stated where?Sounds to me like you answered your own question. Your comment reads like you have been going back and fourth between the steeda spring and no spring, but something about no spring troubles you. It’s already been stated what the spring is there for and what it prevents.I just wish someone out there can please tell me without a doubt that running no clutch assist spring is not going to harm anything. There has to be someone who knows based off of actual fact on this dam internet.... Lol.
I like the steeda but love the no spring feel. Only problem is when I have no clutch assist spring in I have about a half inch to an inch in the pedal (otherwise know as slop, play ,or sag)that I can pull up when it's fully retracted.
I've must of changed back and fourth about twenty times now, ��....
For the love of God please someone tell me and actually know. Is no spring asking for trouble.???
And you guys that like the stocker, God bless. That thing is complete shit on release.
Oh right by the company that sells the springs.. Ohhhhh .......got ya!! Lol lol
Anyone else with real proof or knowledge out there..?
Aaahhh yes, good point. Steeda is a POS company with a horrible reputation in the mustang community and no engineering at all. Thanks for highlighting. Complete sales gimmick. Seems to me your own results verified what the spring does. When the spring is removed, the weight of the pedal is resting on the master cylinder. You figured that out on your own...don’t need some forum jockeys to back it up for ya.
Doesn't matter how reputable a company is there Einstein, they still wanna sell there product. They make false statements on a reg. Thats known shit, unless you live under a rock of course. Just look at some horsepower ratings on anyAaahhh yes, good point. Steeda is a POS company with a horrible reputation in the mustang community and no engineering at all. Thanks for highlighting. Complete sales gimmick. Seems to me your own results verified what the spring does. When the spring is removed, the weight of the pedal is resting on the master cylinder. You figured that out on your own...don’t need some forum jockeys to back it up for ya.
'' reputable '' after market company, check out power adders such as intake and tune for instance. Just cause they say your getting 30rwhp doesn't dam well mean you are.
But yes your right I do feel there might be a chance that it's doing some harm, thus why I asked the question.
However I was looking to get actual fact and not waste my time bickering with you who clearly just believes everything he reads on the forums and vendor sites because people '' think it or claim it''...
Easy lads, your all getting wild over an opinion on how a clutch feels. Some guys think they look good in white sun glasses. Some guys driving stick should be driving automatics.
I have 3 standard cars, this clutch albeit light, is the best IMO. My Impala SS has an 05 T56 in it, it’s fairly hard. My 90 super coupe with 425 Horse with a stock 5 speed feels light some dudes trying to push your leg thru my hip. It’s all comfort level but, mainly driving ability. Maybe wear lighter shoes?
I have 3 standard cars, this clutch albeit light, is the best IMO. My Impala SS has an 05 T56 in it, it’s fairly hard. My 90 super coupe with 425 Horse with a stock 5 speed feels light some dudes trying to push your leg thru my hip. It’s all comfort level but, mainly driving ability. Maybe wear lighter shoes?
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