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I attended the course a few days ago on the 4th and I was blown away, truly an amazing program!



Couple of quick things I took away from the day that I wanted to pass along:

1) If you track your car or run it hard anywhere, do not just turn it off, you need to let it idle for aprox 10+ min or longer to let the engine come down in temp, it will help give your engine a longer life.

2) when your engine is hot and you go to park it DO NOT engage the parking brake, when it clamps down on that concentrated spot on the rotor with than much heat it WILL crack the rotors or possible cause them to explode. Yeah that got everyone's attention in the room when the instructor said he's seen rotors explode shooting out the sides of the car after the parking brake clamped down coming off the track. The parking brakes on all the Track Attack GT350s have all be disengaged, they are just limp sticks when you go to pull them.

3) If there is a malfunction on our car it can go into "limp mode" and when it does that the rev limiter drops down to 7,200 rpms

What to expect;
Reception dinner/registration the night before - pretty boring and somewhat pointless and the buffet dinner kind of sucked, I went out for dinner after. But you do get to hear where all the drivers are from in the introductions.

Day of: the classroom instruction is really good.



One key note; we were given instructions to drive in SPORT mode only and to never put it into TRACK mode, reason given was that track mode allows for a lot of slip angle and can put you into a a wall in a hurry. Sport mode obviously gives more driver aid and helps save us as we start to loose control of the car. I got a first-hand demonstration of this when an instructor took me out for a hot lap and he was putting the car sideways through the turn in track mode (video down below), had it been in sport mode the car would have been fighting his control.

FYI these cars are identical to ours, same tires as we have and they are set to 38-40psi hot off the track, 32psi cold

Every driver had a car assigned to them to use with their last name on the windshield, here was mine



Right away we did a couple of sighting laps around the track in a follow-the-leader style.
Then onto the slalom course, this was very easy and fun, instructor rides along with us.



We then drove in the skid-control car, this was really cool. Instructor does his best to throw you into an out-of control spin and it's your job to keep the car under control. I can honestly say I did fantastic in this drill, I was was stoked, wasn't sure what to expect going in.



We then did extreme hard braking drills to the point of the ABS kicking in, this was great. In this same drill they had us practice heel-toe technique. I spent a couple weeks practicing this tequniqe on the street so I would be prepared for the track, don't bother! they don't give you the chance to use it on the track, when we finally got to do hot laps on our own we were instructed to stay in 3rd gear 100% of the time, no shifting :(

Lunch break and back into the classroom, lunch was fantastic by the way. Water & sodas were available to us though the entire day.

The worst part was when the instructor rode along with us in our cars there was NO passing, so we were limited to the slowest driver in front of us which created a log jam. Instructor was still able to give me pointers for corner entry & exit but it was not at speed cause I had a really slow guy in front of me. I could have gotten a lot more out of the instruction at my pace.

The best part was our last session they let us go out on our own for 20 min., but with the instruction we could only pass in 1 place on the track; the front straight only, and only if the driver in front of us waves us by. Me and another fast guy had to follow the slow guy around for 1 lap before he waved us by and then we had a clear track, and next lap he waved me by so I was able to run a wide open track for the rest of the session at my own pace and the other driver followed, sometimes he fell behind but hung with me for the most part, it was the best part of the day (video below).

Then came the last event of the day; instructor demo ride, I was the passenger. OMG the braking was so much deeper and putting the car sideways in the turns, these guys really push the limits of the car. (video bleow).

Regarding Video: every car has 2 cameras mounted inside and a USB slot in the dash, I purchased the video package for $179 and they gave me a little USB drive to plug into the dash, then you hit the record button and both cams sync up and rec together as 1 file but the video angles are independent. I edited them together as a picture-in-picture window. Also I knew the audio would be shit because we drive with the windows down so I brought my GoPro and mounted it inside the truck to get the exhaust sound, that's the audio you hear on these 4 laps:

Video of my last 4 laps on the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukkRNob4bk&feature=youtu.be

Video of my ride with the instructor driving, we were in a different car so the audio is from the cameras inside the car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95G9Mwoarw&feature=youtu.be

Upon completion of the course you get a graduation trophy, a cool shirt, a USB thumb drive of all the photos that the pro photographer was taking all day (no charge) and some other goodies as well.









 

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nice recap, Terry.... It reminds me of my track attack day back in October '17... you are right about the "banquet" the night before, its a long way to drive out there, and its not a great meal....
The time on track is great, and your point about being behind slow guys does take the fun out of a few of the laps, but you just have to back off, give them some space, then catch up to them again. The "slow guys" usually don't follow the proper racing line, and don't really seem to "get on it" much - - - whereas most of the others want to get out and drive that GT350 like its supposed to be driven/
Like your videos, nice job ! Enjoy that Shelby..... they are great cars on the track, and there aren't many other cars better on the road.
 

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Like your videos, nice job ! Enjoy that Shelby..... they are great cars on the track, and there aren't many other cars better on the road.
Thank you! and agreed, I couldn't have chosen a better car for my needs.
Were you as surprised as I was in your instructor demo ride-a-long? those guys really haul ass.
 

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Terry, thanks for the great summary.

What track configuration did you run with the GT350s ?

I am scheduled for early October.
 

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What track configuration did you run with the GT350s .
I was told via email that we would be on the West track so that's what I studied on video & track map
We wound up on the East track, LOL
The West track looks faster and the East track is more technical
I look forward to your review!
 

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I was on the same track as you, Terry..... best corner is the one in the far back corner of the track, if you hit that one right, you would almost get to rev limiter in 3rd before the left hander....
 

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I attended the course a few days ago on the 4th and I was blown away, truly an amazing program!



Couple of quick things I took away from the day that I wanted to pass along:

1) If you track your car or run it hard anywhere, do not just turn it off, you need to let it idle for aprox 10+ min or longer to let the engine come down in temp, it will help give your engine a longer life.

2) when your engine is hot and you go to park it DO NOT engage the parking brake, when it clamps down on that concentrated spot on the rotor with than much heat it WILL crack the rotors or possible cause them to explode. Yeah that got everyone's attention in the room when the instructor said he's seen rotors explode shooting out the sides of the car after the parking brake clamped down coming off the track. The parking brakes on all the Track Attack GT350s have all be disengaged, they are just limp sticks when you go to pull them.

3) If there is a malfunction on our car it can go into "limp mode" and when it does that the rev limiter drops down to 7,200 rpms

What to expect;
Reception dinner/registration the night before - pretty boring and somewhat pointless and the buffet dinner kind of sucked, I went out for dinner after. But you do get to hear where all the drivers are from in the introductions.

Day of: the classroom instruction is really good.



One key note; we were given instructions to drive in SPORT mode only and to never put it into TRACK mode, reason given was that track mode allows for a lot of slip angle and can put you into a a wall in a hurry. Sport mode obviously gives more driver aid and helps save us as we start to loose control of the car. I got a first-hand demonstration of this when an instructor took me out for a hot lap and he was putting the car sideways through the turn in track mode (video down below), had it been in sport mode the car would have been fighting his control.

FYI these cars are identical to ours, same tires as we have and they are set to 38-40psi hot off the track, 32psi cold

Every driver had a car assigned to them to use with their last name on the windshield, here was mine



Right away we did a couple of sighting laps around the track in a follow-the-leader style.
Then onto the slalom course, this was very easy and fun, instructor rides along with us.



We then drove in the skid-control car, this was really cool. Instructor does his best to throw you into an out-of control spin and it's your job to keep the car under control. I can honestly say I did fantastic in this drill, I was was stoked, wasn't sure what to expect going in.



We then did extreme hard braking drills to the point of the ABS kicking in, this was great. In this same drill they had us practice heel-toe technique. I spent a couple weeks practicing this tequniqe on the street so I would be prepared for the track, don't bother! they don't give you the chance to use it on the track, when we finally got to do hot laps on our own we were instructed to stay in 3rd gear 100% of the time, no shifting :(

Lunch break and back into the classroom, lunch was fantastic by the way. Water & sodas were available to us though the entire day.

The worst part was when the instructor rode along with us in our cars there was NO passing, so we were limited to the slowest driver in front of us which created a log jam. Instructor was still able to give me pointers for corner entry & exit but it was not at speed cause I had a really slow guy in front of me. I could have gotten a lot more out of the instruction at my pace.

The best part was our last session they let us go out on our own for 20 min., but with the instruction we could only pass in 1 place on the track; the front straight only, and only if the driver in front of us waves us by. Me and another fast guy had to follow the slow guy around for 1 lap before he waved us by and then we had a clear track, and next lap he waved me by so I was able to run a wide open track for the rest of the session at my own pace and the other driver followed, sometimes he fell behind but hung with me for the most part, it was the best part of the day (video below).

Then came the last event of the day; instructor demo ride, I was the passenger. OMG the braking was so much deeper and putting the car sideways in the turns, these guys really push the limits of the car. (video bleow).

Regarding Video: every car has 2 cameras mounted inside and a USB slot in the dash, I purchased the video package for $179 and they gave me a little USB drive to plug into the dash, then you hit the record button and both cams sync up and rec together as 1 file but the video angles are independent. I edited them together as a picture-in-picture window. Also I knew the audio would be shit because we drive with the windows down so I brought my GoPro and mounted it inside the truck to get the exhaust sound, that's the audio you hear on these 4 laps:

Video of my last 4 laps on the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukkRNob4bk&feature=youtu.be

Video of my ride with the instructor driving, we were in a different car so the audio is from the cameras inside the car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95G9Mwoarw&feature=youtu.be

Upon completion of the course you get a graduation trophy, a cool shirt, a USB thumb drive of all the photos that the pro photographer was taking all day (no charge) and some other goodies as well.









Cool details, I will be heading up there in three months. I understand the reception dinner is not mandatory and if it was a waste of time, maybe I should skip it to save a day.
 

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Sounds like a great time Terry, told you the car was made for the track. Now you’ll have to take yours someplace local?

The play by play was excellent. I’m sceduled Oct. 1. Can’t wait.
 

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I was on the same track as you, Terry..... best corner is the one in the far back corner of the track, if you hit that one right, you would almost get to rev limiter in 3rd before the left hander....
yeah actually I was riding the rev limiter down the back & front straights. If you listen to my video you hear it cut in, kink of sounds like I've let off the gas but I had my foot to the floor until hitting the brakes. On the front straight rev lim was hitting just as I was crossing the start/finish line and I was riding the rev lim for at least 3 sec before letting off. I should have ignored their instructions and shifted, could have shifted into 4th just before 8k and I would have carried at least 5+mph at the end of the straight.

Cool details, I will be heading up there in three months. I understand the reception dinner is not mandatory and if it was a waste of time, maybe I should skip it to save a day.
I would check with them first before doing that cause before the reception dinner we had to sign a few forms and got a wrist band that was needed for the next day. They might think you are a no-show.

Sounds like a great time Terry, told you the car was made for the track. Now you’ll have to take yours someplace local?
The play by play was excellent. I’m sceduled Oct. 1. Can’t wait.
Yeah you will love it.
I don't know Jim, I beat the sh*t out of their car, riding the rev limiter twice on every lap, braking so hard that the ABS was kicking in, squealing the tires in all the turns with massive load on the suspension..I'm not in a big hurry to beat on my car that way. BTW every one of those cars has malfunction warning lights that are on, they just ignore them unless it's a critical system. On my car the low-tire sensor was on all the time, that's how hard these cars are driven. But to your point I might look to take my car to a fast-wide open track like my home track Willow Springs, and only if that trackday has a very limited number of cars out there at that time, I don't want my front end & windshield peppered with rocks.
 

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I attended the course a few days ago on the 4th and I was blown away, truly an amazing program!



Couple of quick things I took away from the day that I wanted to pass along:

1) If you track your car or run it hard anywhere, do not just turn it off, you need to let it idle for aprox 10+ min or longer to let the engine come down in temp, it will help give your engine a longer life.

2) when your engine is hot and you go to park it DO NOT engage the parking brake, when it clamps down on that concentrated spot on the rotor with than much heat it WILL crack the rotors or possible cause them to explode. Yeah that got everyone's attention in the room when the instructor said he's seen rotors explode shooting out the sides of the car after the parking brake clamped down coming off the track. The parking brakes on all the Track Attack GT350s have all be disengaged, they are just limp sticks when you go to pull them.

3) If there is a malfunction on our car it can go into "limp mode" and when it does that the rev limiter drops down to 7,200 rpms

What to expect;
Reception dinner/registration the night before - pretty boring and somewhat pointless and the buffet dinner kind of sucked, I went out for dinner after. But you do get to hear where all the drivers are from in the introductions.

Day of: the classroom instruction is really good.



One key note; we were given instructions to drive in SPORT mode only and to never put it into TRACK mode, reason given was that track mode allows for a lot of slip angle and can put you into a a wall in a hurry. Sport mode obviously gives more driver aid and helps save us as we start to loose control of the car. I got a first-hand demonstration of this when an instructor took me out for a hot lap and he was putting the car sideways through the turn in track mode (video down below), had it been in sport mode the car would have been fighting his control.

FYI these cars are identical to ours, same tires as we have and they are set to 38-40psi hot off the track, 32psi cold

Every driver had a car assigned to them to use with their last name on the windshield, here was mine



Right away we did a couple of sighting laps around the track in a follow-the-leader style.
Then onto the slalom course, this was very easy and fun, instructor rides along with us.



We then drove in the skid-control car, this was really cool. Instructor does his best to throw you into an out-of control spin and it's your job to keep the car under control. I can honestly say I did fantastic in this drill, I was was stoked, wasn't sure what to expect going in.



We then did extreme hard braking drills to the point of the ABS kicking in, this was great. In this same drill they had us practice heel-toe technique. I spent a couple weeks practicing this tequniqe on the street so I would be prepared for the track, don't bother! they don't give you the chance to use it on the track, when we finally got to do hot laps on our own we were instructed to stay in 3rd gear 100% of the time, no shifting :(

Lunch break and back into the classroom, lunch was fantastic by the way. Water & sodas were available to us though the entire day.

The worst part was when the instructor rode along with us in our cars there was NO passing, so we were limited to the slowest driver in front of us which created a log jam. Instructor was still able to give me pointers for corner entry & exit but it was not at speed cause I had a really slow guy in front of me. I could have gotten a lot more out of the instruction at my pace.

The best part was our last session they let us go out on our own for 20 min., but with the instruction we could only pass in 1 place on the track; the front straight only, and only if the driver in front of us waves us by. Me and another fast guy had to follow the slow guy around for 1 lap before he waved us by and then we had a clear track, and next lap he waved me by so I was able to run a wide open track for the rest of the session at my own pace and the other driver followed, sometimes he fell behind but hung with me for the most part, it was the best part of the day (video below).

Then came the last event of the day; instructor demo ride, I was the passenger. OMG the braking was so much deeper and putting the car sideways in the turns, these guys really push the limits of the car. (video bleow).

Regarding Video: every car has 2 cameras mounted inside and a USB slot in the dash, I purchased the video package for $179 and they gave me a little USB drive to plug into the dash, then you hit the record button and both cams sync up and rec together as 1 file but the video angles are independent. I edited them together as a picture-in-picture window. Also I knew the audio would be shit because we drive with the windows down so I brought my GoPro and mounted it inside the truck to get the exhaust sound, that's the audio you hear on these 4 laps:

Video of my last 4 laps on the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukkRNob4bk&feature=youtu.be

Video of my ride with the instructor driving, we were in a different car so the audio is from the cameras inside the car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95G9Mwoarw&feature=youtu.be

Upon completion of the course you get a graduation trophy, a cool shirt, a USB thumb drive of all the photos that the pro photographer was taking all day (no charge) and some other goodies as well.









I'm going on Labor Day Weekend...

I guess the dinner and museum the night before was a waste? How long is that event?

Did you buy the insurance?

Can't wait for this trip...

We're heading over in our F250 - doing a road trip..... may head to Moab or Spokane after the school.
 

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I should have ignored their instructions and shifted, could have shifted into 4th...
Wait a sec; a GT350 on a race track and no shifting ?

After rereading some descriptions and watching an annoyed instructor due to slow traffic and no passing, I am wondering about this event. Do they not split the participants into different run groups based on experience ? How odd ...
 

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But to your point I might look to take my car to a fast-wide open track like my home track Willow Springs, and only if that trackday has a very limited number of cars out there at that time, I don't want my front end & windshield peppered with rocks.
I was out on Thunderhill near Willows CA with a bunch of other traffic and see not noticeable paint damage from rocks, etc. The track was groomed before it went hot in the morning and there was very minimal debris. Most debris was tire worms the marks from which can be rather easily removed. Top speed 123 on the front straight.
 

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Wait a sec; a GT350 on a race track and no shifting ?

After rereading some descriptions and watching an annoyed instructor due to slow traffic and no passing, I am wondering about this event. Do they not split the participants into different run groups based on experience ? How odd ...
I did the Petty School at California Speedway a few years ago - it was simular - speed ETC was goverened - and we did not shift once we were up to speed, then again it was an oval.
 

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I was at the track attack at the end of May and we all shifted while on the track. Using fourth gear we were able to drive hard into the corners and brake before the turn. The second day option was worth the additional cost, by the end of the second day everyone was flying. I had so much fun I would pay to go again. If you can go don't miss it.
 

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Sounds like a great time Terry, told you the car was made for the track. Now you’ll have to take yours someplace local?

The play by play was excellent. I’m sceduled Oct. 1. Can’t wait.
Looks like I am going to run into you up there, I am scheduled for October 1-3.
 

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I guess the dinner and museum the night before was a waste? How long is that event?
Did you buy the insurance?.
yes waste of time but you really need to be there for registration and to get your wrist band, and you get to hear where everyone is from..
8am - about 3:30pm
NO, the insurance is a ripoff! $5k deductible so pay premium and then also pay the first $5,000 before the insurance kicks in. F-that.
I called my auto insurance to make sure I was covered for auto & property damage driving their car, and the answer was "yes". Exclusions in my policy were the words "racing" or "competition" and neither applied to this training class.

Wait a sec; a GT350 on a race track and no shifting ?
After rereading some descriptions and watching an annoyed instructor due to slow traffic and no passing, I am wondering about this event. Do they not split the participants into different run groups based on experience ? How odd ...
No they don't break us up into skill levels and they slowest guy in our group held us all up, that part sucked.
As I mentioned before our class was told NO SHIFTING & NO PASSING, until the last session of the day they let us pass ONLY on the front straight and ONLY if the driver in front of us waved us by. After that I did get about 10 laps of wide-open track in at my own pace. Based on the videos I've seen and the comments from people that have been the "no passing" seems to be a hit & miss depending on when you go or what instructor is there, I don't know. BUT if I had to do it over again I would talk to them about the shifting.

I'll be there the end of October (last class with the two-day option).
yeah I wanted that 2nd day, the dates just didn't work out for me. enjoy.
 

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Great descriptions and videos racer172. Found myself swaying with you on the turns in the video. ;-) Thanks for posting this, it was (that overused word) awesome!
 

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Forgot to mention, the host hotel is the Hyatt by the Salt Lake City airport and is 30 min. away from the track and is $170/night
I stayed at the Hotel American in the town of Toolele for $108/night and it was 10 min. from the track. This hotel was really nice, I highly recommend it.
 
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